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[Anselmo]: Hello! This is DeafDots,
14 January 2022.

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[Anselmo]: Maritime Sign Language,
MSL, is used primarily in

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eastern Canada. MSL is older
than American Sign Language.

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Deaf people who immigrated to
Canada from the United Kingdom

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at the end of 1700's brought MSL
to Canada, it is very similar

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to British Sign Language.

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ASL didn’t appear in
Canada unti 1817.

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DeafDots asked Dr. Bev Buchanan,
a Nova Scotia native,

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how many people
use MSL today.

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There are a few people who still
use MSL, but ASL has become more

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dominant. Yoel, another researcher,
confirmed that in 2009 there were

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100 native MSL users, but
that was 12-13 years ago.

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Numbers have gotten smaller.

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My mom is Deaf, she is 95
years old and is still alive.

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We converse in MSL.

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Her generation strongly uses MSL.

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Younger ones, like me,
mix ASL and MSL because

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the Deaf school
closed in 1961.

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MSL was used in the Halifax
School for the Deaf.

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I transferred to the Amherst School
for the Deaf and they used ASL.

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In collecting data, I watched
videos of interviews and they

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mentioned when they transferred
to Amherst, the language there

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was different. History shows the
Halifax School of the Deaf closing

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is the reason
MSL is endangered.

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[Anselmo]: Today, MSL is still
used today, mostly by

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older Deaf people
in Nova Scotia,

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New Brunswick, Newfoundland,
and Prince Edward Island.

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If you have not heard of it, are
you wondering if MSL is disappearing?

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People don’t really
use MSL today.

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There are maybe 30
or 40 MSL users.

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My mom and I converse in MSL.

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Whenever I visit home, I
code-switch from ASL to MSL.

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I remember going to Gallaudet
in 1981 and after a few months,

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I went home and signed in ASL.

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My parents were shocked
at how smooth ASL was.

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They noticed that ASL was an
academic language because

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I acquired it at
Gallaudet University.

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MSL is its own language.

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It’s different from ASL.

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It has a different process.

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MSL is a beautiful language.

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I could code-switch
and sign in MSL.

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[Anselmo]: Halifax School of
the Deaf closed in 1961,

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is the Deaf community doing
anything to preserve MSL

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so the language
doesn’t disappear?

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We’re fighting and we’re
trying to find a way.

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I need to thank a few people
who pushed me to do my PhD

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dissertation and research on MSL.

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I’m really grateful and I
learned a lot from that journey.

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It’s easy watching videos and
identifying MSL signs that

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I grew up using and there were
a few I’ve never seen before.

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For example, this sign means
“graduation.” Other signs that

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were new to me, I had to ask
the community what it meant.

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This shows MSL has evolved from
the older generation having its

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own language to the younger
generation making it their own.

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[Anselmo]: Is MSL a full
and formal language?

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Yes, all sign languages have
that, you just need a linguist

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to analyse and identify
what they are.

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I’m specialising in preserving
specific vocabulary and words

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to create a dictionary.

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So far, I’ve documented 932
words that I can add to

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the online dictionary.
That’s my next project.

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[Anselmo]: Can you tell me about your
work on MSL and future plans?

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I have a few things in mind, like
creating an online dictionary

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because videos show signs in motion
instead of freeze frames in books.

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That design doesn’t represent
the language itself, so I will add

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clips of authentic signers from
old videos - most started in 1995

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to 2000. I must thank Elizabeth Doull
for sharing videos of her

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interviewing about 50 to
75 people to preserve MSL.

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She gave me the videos to
analyze and share with the world.

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That’s one of the three things.

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Online dictionary.

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Someone recommended a children’s
book with stories on MSL.

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That’s an idea.

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We need a team to
develop the book.

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Third one, I had a discussion with
my peers about the idea of offering

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a semester with an MSL curriculum
for interpreters who are still

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learning because if they bump into
Deaf senior citizens who still use

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MSL, they would be able to
translate between ASL and MSL.

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Unfortunately, today the older
generation and younger generation

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don’t get together because of
technology and things are different

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now; many Deaf students are
mainstreamed and don’t have any

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exposure to older
Deaf role models.

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During my time, before technology,
we would gather together often,

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visit other people at their houses,
have parties in backyards,

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do potluck dinners,
and attend Deaf Clubs.

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Now things are different.

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Also, my dissertation shares my
autoethnography which contains

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my story of growing up, how people
viewed me when I went to Gallaudet

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University because some people
thought MSL was a strange sign

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language. I couldn’t explain MSL
until now that I’m older and more

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educated, I can understand
and explain the differences

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between ASL and MSL.

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[Anselmo]: When the Accessible
Canada Act (ACA) was implemented

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in 2019, the Canadian Radio-television
and Telecommunications which

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regulates broadcasting and
telecommunications, was given

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the responsibility to create
regulations on accessibility

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reporting requirements. Deaf
community agencies are now trying

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to get CRTC to be more sensitive
in how CRTC accommodates Deaf

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communities. DeafDots asked
Elliott Richman why this is important.

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CRTC asked for feedback and
opinions from the public.

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On what? Telecommunications
in Canada.

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Anyone can offer an opinion
or feedback to CRTC.

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Anyone.

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For example, feedback...

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CRTC asked for feedback/opinions
on different topics such as lower

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cost data only data plans, paper
billing practices from phone

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companies and cable companies,
and mobile services for people

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with disabilities, including
deaf and hard-of-hearing.

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Right now, DHH Coalition is
concentrating on how to make

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the last item Deaf and
Hard-of-Hearing friendly.

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[Anselmo]: The DHH Coalition
represents Deaf organisations

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in Nova Scotia, Newfoundland
and Labrador, and Ontario.

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Elliott, you stated to CRTC they
need to include signed videos

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in ASL and LSQ on their review
of Canada Video Relay Service's

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2022 budget. Why is
this important?

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On July 11, 2019, a new law was
passed; the ACA, Accessibility

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Canada Act. There are many things
covered in the bylaw, but one

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significant thing was the Canadian
government recognizing ASL and LSQ

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as the primary languages
for Deaf people in Canada.

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On March 11, 2020, CRTC released
a proceeding called “VRS Review.”

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CRTC and CAV (they’re responsible
for VRS) both made their

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information available in four
languages, English, French, ASL,

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and LSQ. CRTC will accept
feedback and opinions in

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English, French,
ASL, and LSQ.

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What’s exciting is that now Deaf
and Hard-of-Hearing people can

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finally receive information in
sign language and submit opinions

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and feedback in
sign language too.

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Full transparency.

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That transparency isn’t limited to
VRS Review only, they also made

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three other proceedings more
Deaf friendly; mobile services for

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people with disabilities, 9-8-8
Mental Health Crisis Hotline,

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and CAV’s proposal
budget for 2022.

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[Anselmo]: That's great.

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With signed videos, Deaf people
can understand more clearly and

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participate in
dialogue with CRTC.

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What's the next step?

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Now that the process of
understanding what feedback CRTC

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wants and that CRTC will receive
feedback in sign language, the next

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step for CRTC itself is to
mandate that all aspects of

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telecommunications goods
and services be made Deaf and

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Hard-of-Hearing friendly.

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[Anselmo]: What is cricket?
It first started in southeast England

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in the 1500's and has become
an established sport played in over

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100 countries including West
Indies, India, Australia,

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New Zealand and South Africa.

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[Anselmo]: Cricket is not as
well known in Canada, but Deaf

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immigrants to Canada who either
moved with their families from

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India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Iraq,
and some were born in Canada but

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grew up in their own communities
have come to love cricket.

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What is cricket? It is a bat-and-ball
game between two teams

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of eleven players each
on a long narrow pitch.

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At opposite ends of the pitch there
are three tall stumps with one or

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two bails across the top.

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One person on each team defends
the wicket at opposite ends while

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a batsman throws a ball
to try to hit the wicket.

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[Anselmo]: DeafDots spoke with
Manpreet Aujila who is president

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of Deaf Cricket Canada (DCC) and
is Cricket Captain of a team

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in the Greater Toronto Area.

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Tell me more about this game,
tell us more about it.

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What is cricket about? (namesign).

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Purpose of cricket, what does
it look like? I'll show you...

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That is cricket.

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And use a hardball.

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Bat the ball with the hardball.

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[Anselmo]: When did it first start?
Seven deaf people started playing

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informally in 1997 but interest
grew and soon Deaf teams were playing

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cricket against each other
in the summer of 1999.

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Deaf Cricket Canada
was launched in 2014.

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In our Deaf community we
love playing cricket.

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It's a game.

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We started an organisation
called "KKCC".

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What does it stand for?
Knight King Cricket Club, KKCC.

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It started last year and has
continued to the present, 2021-2022.

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Who do we play with? Our Deaf
team plays with hearing teams

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in different communities,
not specific but all teams.

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We enjoy and take cricket
seriously! We are happy that

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the team has grown and
hope it continues growing.

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If you are interested to
join, contact me anytime.

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If you have experience or don't
know how to play cricket,

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we'd be happy to help you.

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Join, play and train,
work hard and be active.

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[Anselmo]: In 2020 they competed
against hearing teams in

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Mississauga Cricket League
(MCL) which represents over

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100 communities. They will
compete again this year

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starting in
April or May.

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[Anselmo]: DCC says on their
website that they put special

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focus on cricket interests
of all Deaf Canada.

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Deaf people are equal, and Deaf
people have the same rights as

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hearing people. All participants
have full access to communication.

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The shared interest in cricket
brings together all kinds of Deaf

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and hard of hearing people and
creates new opportunities for

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friendship and networking
within the greater deaf and

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hard of hearing community.

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[Anselmo]: I have wondered if
having a Deaf dog is the same as

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any dog or are there more challenges?
I have heard of some

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people having a "Deaf dog" or a
"Deaf cat"? What is it like?

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I asked Nicole about it.

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[Nicole]: I have heard some hearing
people say Deaf dogs are harder to

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handle because they
cannot hear you.

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Is this true? I asked two different
people, a hearing person, and

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a Deaf person what it is
like to raise Deaf dogs

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and if it is
any different.

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I have a Deaf dog.

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He’s a rescue dog.

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I have another
hearing family dog.

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The differences in training? I adopted
both dogs at about the same

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time. The previous owner of the
Deaf dog I rescued was hearing, so

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my dog’s reception skills weren’t
visual and he would chew on my arm.

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I realised he thought the
signing signalled play time.

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But, once I trained him, he
understood the difference between the two.

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Uh, now when I look at him,
I see we are the same.

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Visual based.

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He started to understand more
about how we function as beings

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without the sense of
hearing, you know.

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I raised the dogs together and
trained them at the same time.

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I noticed the hearing dog was
more hearing-based and would become

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more alert. He was more
dominant with his hearing.

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The other dog was visual.

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He would use his eyes, he was
patient, and he would pay attention.

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He was good at training
and learned fast.

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Often, I would see that his
behaviour and responses were more

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prominent, like during dinner with
the hearing dog on one side and

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the Deaf dog on the other, during
feed time, the hearing dog would act

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more passive whereas the deaf
dog would use his paws to tap my arm.

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You know, he’s like
“I want food. Share"

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To take a moment and introduce
my Deaf dogs, um Lollipop and

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Jellybean are part of The Ultimutts,
which is a live show

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where we travel and
perform around Canada.

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As a family,
we have family dogs.

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Um the family members, my family
members perform with them.

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It’s myself, my sister,
our children, and it’s about

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showcasing positive
reinforcement.

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Animals love to work, they’re
bred to have a job and a purpose and

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it’s really a win-win
for all of us.

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We also work with animal actors so
Lollipop and Jellybean have a job

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as animal actors.

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Jellybean has two
Guinness World Records.

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He was in a feature on
Netflix called Fractured.

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He was just in another movie for
Paramount that’s going to come out

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on Paramount Plus and Jellybean
is a really, really neat dog in that

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he was a top 10 semi-finalist
on the world’s most amazing dog with

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Lisa Vanderpump and George Lucas
and Jellybean also has two

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Guinness World Records.

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Lollipop is an incredible little
dog we call “the Lollipop and

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Friends Show.” She has all the
tricks and Lollipop has a Guinness

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world record riding a scooter
with my cat and they were considered one

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of the top 10 stories of the year
for the 2022 Guinness World Records

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book. It was the fastest five
metres travelled on a scooter

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by a dog and a cat.

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This past April we travelled
to America’s Got Talent with Lollipop

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and Sashimi and they only
aired pieces of the audition but

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we did get
four yeses.

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So, Lollipop and Jellybean have
an amazing career and we consider them

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to be our strongest dogs in the
show out of the nine dogs that

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we have. Um, which is amazing
because Deaf dogs are considered

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untrainable and Lollipop and
Jellybean are showing that not only

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are they highly trainable, they’re
actually our best performers and

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for that, we’re really,
really proud of them.

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[Nicole]: What common deaf behaviours
do you see in your dogs?

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Yes, sometimes when I
get back home I...

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the hearing dog would greet me
at the door and the absent dog

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would still be sleeping.

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This means when I arrive home,
I go upstairs to gently wake

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him up and he
wakes up excited.

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That.

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In the second story, uh, with
the lights flashing on and off,

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he responds the same way deaf people
do when they’re being called for

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by someone far
across the room.

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Like from the first floor to the
second-floor living room - when

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I get home, I enter from the first
floor then flick the light switch

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to get his attention, he would
come down from upstairs and know

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it's time for a walk.

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Jellybean is a great live show dog
but he’s a really good animal

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actor, he’s actually considered
our strongest animal actor out of all

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the animals that we have
that can and can’t hear.

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Not being able to hear has
actually helped Jellybean in many cases

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because he doesn’t get
scared or distracted by noises.

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[Nicole]: What’s your funniest
“deaf moment” with the dogs?

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One of the funny deaf moments
from our funniest deaf moment dealing

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with Lollipop and Sashimi is
that Lollipop actually falls asleep in

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the middle of a show while
she’s waiting for her turn.

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So, Lollipop will be sitting on
the box, waiting to take a turn and

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literally she’ll just take
a nap and then open one eye

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every so often to
see if It's her turn.

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She often doesn’t miss a
beat when it is her turn.

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Should we call them professional
naps and we do have a giggle

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about it
during showtime.

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If I try to get his attention when
he’s in a bad mood or when he’s

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being defiant, he would just
give me the side-eye.

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Cute.

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He has a way of ignoring someone,
you know how that can be.

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[Nicole]: Anselmo, maybe you
should get a Deaf dog?

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[Anselmo]: Deaf dogs are just like
Deaf people - we depend on sight to

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learn and observe so we both
have the same thing in common.

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Maybe Deaf people make the
best owners of Deaf dogs?

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I like to travel so I don’t have
any pets yet. Maybe in the future.

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